The OC Auto Show is about to start-up at the Anaheim Convention Center and this year is going to deliver more ride and drives than ever – including toy-electric ride and drives for kids!

Orange County’s 54th annual family-friendly event starts Thursday, October 4th and runs through Sunday, October 7th.  All the major manufacturers are set to display their latest vehicles and technology including the drool-worthy exotics!

I sat down with John Sackrison, Executive Director of the OC Automobile Dealers Association, to find out what’s in store for this year’s show and what the future of mobility might look like for OC Auto Shows to come.  Click play below to enjoy the podcast and check out a few pictures from last year’s show.


Recorded – September 10, 2018, in Newport Beach, CA

The 54th Annual OC Auto Show

John Sackrison: Orange County sells more cars than half the states in the nation. It’s amazing to me to see the passion people have her for cars in southern California.

Our show is a reflection of this market, and that’s one of the things that I think has made the show so much fun to attend. Test drives are right up there, exotics, and that’s something that we have that not all the other shows have, whether it’s here or even around the country. It’s a fun day for the whole family.

OC Auto Show
Oct. 4-7 @ The Anaheim
Convention Center

Tom Smith: Welcome to iDriveSoCal, the podcast all about mobility from the automotive capital of the United States, southern California. Tom Smith here, and I am joined today, I’m excited to be joined today by John Sackrison of the Orange County Automobile Dealers Association. The topic du jour is the OC Auto Show, which is fast approaching, and we’re going to talk about a few different things, but John, thank you for joining me.

John Sackrison: Absolutely. Happy to be here, and excited to be speaking with you about an awesome event, the Orange County International Auto Show.

“…600+ of the hottest new cars.”

Tom Smith: And let’s just, right off the top, dates and times, the details on the OC Auto Show.

John Sackrison: So, it’s October 4th through the 7th at the Anaheim Convention Center. It’s the eighth largest auto show in the nation, 600+ of the hottest new cars. We’ve got more ride and drives than anywhere else in the country. We got a 15 different ride and drives from 18 brands, including some off-road test tracks that are going to be really cool this year.

Tom Smith: Off-road test tracks, is that a new?

John Sackrison: Well, Camp Jeep has been coming to our show for many years, and that’s almost like a roller coaster right on the show floor, and it’s fun to watch, but it’s even more fun to do. We’re seeing other brands that are adopting that strategy, one being the sister company of RAM, which is also part of the FCA family. But this year, Land Rover is coming in with one as well, and it should be outstanding.

Tom Smith: So the location of the show again, Anaheim Convention Center.

John Sackrison: Anaheim.

Tom Smith: Anaheim Convention Center, and…

John Sackrison: We’re right across the street from Disneyland.

Tom Smith: Right. So then do you guys do this off? I guess you do much of the ride and drives in the parking lot there, or do you actually use streets or how does that work? What’s the lay of the land?

“It’s basically like a rollercoaster ride on the show floor.”

John Sackrison: Well, the off-road test tracks are actually on the show floor.

Tom Smith: On the inside?

John Sackrison: Inside. So it’s basically like a rollercoaster ride on the show floor, and these off-road test tracks show everything that these vehicles are capable of, and they, it’s visually exciting to watch. And even more visually, I guess, more exciting to actually do it. I mean, I’ve gone and done professional driving training, and I thought, “Oh gosh, I want to drive one of these vehicles on Camp Jeep.” After doing it with one of their professional drivers, I was very thankful that I had a professional driver doing it and not me. And I don’t shy away from a driving experience. It’s pretty thrilling.

Tom Smith: So you’re a passenger. I don’t get to take the keys or key fob, whatever it is these days, and drive the vehicle myself indoors on this track.

John Sackrison: Not on Camp Jeep. Um, I’m not certain about RAM and I’m not 100 percent certain on Land Rover, but I suspect them to be the same.

More Test Drives than Anywhere 

John Sackrison: But the other 15 brands that you are actually driving the vehicle, it’d be over a hundred and 50 vehicles that consumers can drive right at the show. That’s more than anywhere else in the country. And it’s become a big part of our show.

We started doing it back in 2003, and I can’t say this with 100 percent certainty, but I believe that we were the first auto show in the country to incorporate a ride and drive at an auto show, and it’s been wonderful. Our consumers that come to the show love it.

“…18 different brands represented this year.”

They get to test drive multiple vehicles from different brands. We’ve got 18 different brands represented this year. You can test drive more cars in one location than anywhere else, and that really helps the consumer make a decision on what they want, what their next vehicle might be, as well as it’s kind of fun. And these are, these are done actually, they’re street drives.

So you go out on the roads. Sitting in the passenger seat next to you is one of their product specialists that is informing you about the car on the ride and guiding you, but you’re driving it, and so you get the real experience of driving a car, and that’s an important piece of the puzzle, and people are trying to figure out which car they want to buy it or just, “Hey, that’s a really fun car to drive.”

“…people always come off with a big smile on their face.”

Tom Smith: Yeah, absolutely.

John Sackrison: Just getting to be more the case of most of the products that are out there now.

Tom Smith: So is there any additional, first off, what does it cost to get into the show?

John Sackrison: $12.

Tom Smith: $12.

John Sackrison: And kids 12 and under are free.

Tom Smith: And is there any additional fee to take these ride and drives?

John Sackrison: No.

Tom Smith: Completely free.

John Sackrison: Completely free.

Tom Smith: I would imagine there’s a bit of a line that you’d probably have to wait in though.

John Sackrison: It depends. Camp Jeep usually has a pretty good line, but what’s interesting about it, they’ve done a magnificent job with that program.

It’s almost like a Disney line, and that’s certainly not as long as a Disney line, but they keep you entertained in the process. I’d say that’s probably the average wait’s probably 10 to 15 minutes, so it moves very quickly. It’s not just one vehicle going through the course.

I think at any given time, probably at eight to 10 going to the course, and they’ve gotten really good at loading people in and loading people out quickly, and people always come off with a big smile on their face.

The 8th Largest Auto Show in the U.S.

Tom Smith: Now you mentioned one of the innovative things that you guys do, which is these ride and drives that you kind of introduced that to the best of your knowledge. And that leads to the next question is, we’re in southern California, the automotive capital of not only the United States but the automotive capital of the world.

And if you hear, Mr. and Mrs. podcast listener, if you hear some planes going over, we are literally a podcasting from the OC Automobile Dealer’s Association Office, which is right by John Wayne Airport. So we’re in a little bit of a jet path here. You might hear a plane going over from time to time.

“Orange County sells more [new] cars than half the states in the nation.”

So where was I? Oh yeah. How you guys fit in, how the auto show fits into, hey, you got LA, the LA Auto Show, a big one. You have the San Diego Auto Show, and personally, I try to hit them all. It’s my favorite time of year. But talk a little bit about how you guys fit in here in southern California, then also if there are any comments on the bigger picture of the United States.

John Sackrison: So I think as I said before, we’re the eighth largest auto show in the nation, and that’s a reflection of the strong automotive sales. The consumers here buy more new vehicles in 25 states just in Orange County.

Tom Smith: That is huge. We need to touch on that again. Just in Orange County, automotive sales, new automotive sales, new cars being sold in Orange County, exceed that of automotive sales in 25 states.

John Sackrison: That is absolutely correct.

Tom Smith: That is just a huge figure. That’s a huge statistic.

The Automotive Capital of the World

John Sackrison: Absolutely. It was kind of funny. I’m originally from Detroit, and as you call this the car capital of the world, I thought that was. What I learned very quickly moving out here was that this is the car capital world for a whole litany of reasons.

As I started to get a gauge on the statistics of the market, I decided to do a comparison to other states because I was so impressed with the numbers that were produced here. And that’s one of the numbers that we discovered, and we monitor it each year to see if we got beat. Some years were 24, some years were 25. In 2017, it was 25 that we beat.

That means Orange County sells more cars than half the states in the nation. And that speaks to the love affair that people in Orange County, and southern California as a whole, have a for their vehicles.

Tom Smith: Without a doubt.

John Sackrison: It’s amazing to me to see the passion people have her for cars in southern California. It’s wonderful to see. People like what they drive. It’s such a reflection of who we are, and sometimes who we want to be, and what’s important to us, and that’s where you see a lot of the things that have come out of, what I call the car culture in southern California, is let’s modify our cars.

“Southern California has always been a trendsetter… [in] the customization of cars…”

Let’s, how do I stand out in this massive sea of people and cars? And that’s one of the things that I think Southern California has always been a trendsetter on, is the customization of cars, and that’s reflected in our show. Our show is a reflection of this market.

That’s one of the things that I think has made the show so much fun to attend, is because you get a glimpse into that, and some of it’s coming from the manufacturers, some of it’s coming from my groups like Dub that will bring vehicles in, but it’s every facet of our show that’s a reflection of the market here.

“…San Diego Auto Show’s a  good show, and LA is a good show.”

And that’s one of the things that again, makes our show a lot of fun to attend, and something that, we’ve been doing this for 54 years and that’s been one of the key elements is to make it a reflection of here. As far as the other auto shows in Southern California; San Diego Auto Show’s a good show, and LA is a good show. That is very much an industry facing show. They do a great job with it, but a lot of that is focused on the media and the manufacturers.

A Show You Will Love

Ours is 100 percent on producing a show that the consumers and the showgoers are gonna love. We look at every one of our people that come to shows our guests, and we actively want to give them what they’re looking for, and the number one thing is to see all the cars in one place. Test drives are right up there. Exotics. That’s something that we have that not all the other shows have, whether it’s here or even around the country. Another key element is making the show fun.

It’s funny, it’s something that, when we see it on our survey results, and we ask, “What’s the primary reason that you came to the auto show?” And I’d list off some of those, but one of them is it’s a fun day out. And it’s a fun day for the whole family.

We have people that are auto enthusiasts to the extreme degree. They love it. And then you get a family of four that comes to the event and they love it because we try and have elements of the show that appeals to everyone, and everyone walks away going, “Wow, that was really cool! I didn’t even know that vehicle like that existed.” And that’s what, I think, part of what makes our show so much fun.

“…you get a family of four that comes… they love it… everyone walks away going, wow, that was really cool!”

Tom Smith: The family aspect, I smiled when you just said that because I have an 11-month-old son, and literally-

John Sackrison: Congratulations.

Tom Smith: Thank you. The first-time dad, I’m so head over heels in love, it’s crazy. But this morning at about 6:00, 6:30 whatever, I had to get something out of the car, and I have a small sports sedan, and my son never has seen it. He doesn’t go in it because he’s only in the midsize SUV that structurally, higher safety rating, whatever. I want more metal around my son. The safer I can make him, the better.

But I plopped him down in the driver seat, and I’m sitting there, explaining things to him about the car, and not that he’s going to remember, or even take it in right now, but that is an illustration of the family friendliness, and maybe mom, or maybe dad, or maybe uncle, or maybe whoever is the car person that drags him to the show, but then it just, all of a sudden like, “Oh yeah, cool.” And that’s what makes these things really special.

In fact, my son has a toy, Harry the Hot Rod, and it says different things. One of the things that, he sings different things Harry does, “Let’s go to a cool car show.” So it’s just ingrained and it’s good family fun, and I love car shows. I get a little giddy about it myself.

A Family Tradition

John Sackrison: You know, one of the great elements is its kind of funny. I look at who’s coming to our auto show, and it’s everybody, but I hear from people, and I literally get emails thanking me for putting on the show because it’s become a family tradition, whether it’s the whole family or a father/son, and it’s that shared experience.

One gentleman told me that it’s one of the bonding moments that he and his son looks forward to every year, and they’ve been going for 17 years.  While they couldn’t always connect on everything, that the auto show, and again, I don’t mean to overstate the importance of the show, but it’s one element, is it can be a very much a family tradition, and we try and make it fun for families.

“…kids ride and drive… mini electric Jeeps.”

I said we have the most ride and drives, and this was not included in that account. We also have kids ride and drive, so we get those little kinds of mini electric Jeeps.

Tom Smith: Oh, really?

John Sackrison: Kids can ride those to the show. We have a scavenger hunt that we introduced about five years ago. Kids love it. And what it does is it helps give the kids something to do while mom and dad might be shopping for their next car, and something you just said about your car and walking your son through it, and it’s fascinating. As our lives change, our vehicle needs change. My wife and I had twins four years ago, and we’re driving very different cars than we used to be four years ago.

Tom Smith: Sure, sure.

“…you get information off the internet but what does the car really look and feel and drive like?”

John Sackrison: But that’s one of the things that’s great about the auto show is you can go see them all in one place and figure out what fits for you. There’s a tremendous amount of information online from a variety of sources that a consumer should absolutely look at, there’s just a wealth of information, it’s fantastic, there’s something about going and sitting in a car and feeling how it actually fits your body. Does it have as much room in the backseat for junior and his soccer gear or friends carpooling?

And then the test drive experience that we’re able to provide with our show, it gives consumers just a tremendous amount of, you get the information off the internet, but what does the car really look and feel and drive like, and that’s why auto shows, and particularly ours, are one of the most effective ways for consumers to choose their next car.

Tom Smith: I love technology. Obviously, we’re podcasting, it’s the fastest piece of the fastest growing piece of digital media out there. So obviously, I’m forward leaning on technology.

OC Auto Show
Oct. 4-7 @ The Anaheim
Convention Center

The concept of technology replacing the car buying experience to me is it’s too hard for me to wrap my head around. I have to go see it, I want to smell it, I want to get in it, I want to see how it feels when I’m parked, I want to see how it feels when I’m cornering. And I don’t care if it is I’m a cushy luxury ride or a sports sedan. Check, check, I want to feel all that. I want to experience all that.

So the auto shows are an awesome way to do that across, and especially with all of your ride and drives across all manufacturers. And I wanted to get into the, you mentioned 50+ years. 53, 54?

John Sackrison: 54.

OC Auto Show – Since 1964

Tom Smith: So the history of this show, and then if you can add in the component that I think might make you guys a little bit special too, or different, is the Motor Trend aspect, that I know you guys partner with Motor Trend to produce your show, and I’m sure they bring something to the overall experience that consumers feel, but they don’t necessarily know where that came from.

“…we started… at the Orange County Fairgrounds…”

John Sackrison: Well we started in 1964 at the Orange County Fairgrounds, and it’s fascinating. I have the original floor plan up in my office, and you look at the manufacturers that were participating in some of them, the brands that are still around today. Some of those brands aren’t around, and we have new brands, and the auto show, has been something that has evolved to reflect what the consumers want, what our show attendees want, and a great partner to all that has been Motor Trend Auto Shows.

They are a division of Motor Trend. For example, this year, they’re going to be bringing Motor Trends, best driver vehicles to the show. These are ones that their editors have identified as the best driving vehicles out on the road today. That’s a cool element for, I think, anybody should have to look at. They also bring a credible amount of knowledge, not just in the automotive world, but in the production of auto shows.

“…this an event that is an Orange County event, and nobody can make mistake it for anything else.”

So they’ve been great partners to us. They bring a lot to the table. And what’s been nice is that we’ve got this hybrid of something that our board and myself oversee the show and are able to make this have a very local feel to it. Motor Trend produces 19 auto shows around the country, so they’re experts at doing it. What’s great about the relationship that we have with them is that they really welcome making this an event that is an Orange County event, and nobody can make mistake it for anything else. So they’ve been great partners.

Tom Smith: Let’s talk a little bit about the numbers. So we have it more than once, and we’ll get it again at the end. But the days and times of the OC Auto Show and location, let’s just drop that again.

John Sackrison: Okay. It’s October 4th through the 7th at the Anaheim Convention Center. It starts at 4:00 on the 4th, and runs till 10:00 PM that night, noon, until 10:00 PM on Friday the 5th. On the 6th, it’s from 9:00 AM til 10:00 PM. And on the seventh, which is the last day on Sunday, is from 9:00 AM til 7:00 PM.

Tom Smith: And tickets can be bought online?

John Sackrison: Yeah. If you go to, you can find out more about the show as well as buy tickets, and there’s even a discount for those that buy online.

67,000ft of New Car Smell

Tom Smith: Alright, perfect. Now during the show, what kind of numbers of attendance come through, and if I want to come on a lighter day, and kind of miss the crowds, when might I want to consider coming?

John Sackrison: Well, the biggest days are Saturday and Sunday because that’s typically when it’s most convenient for people to come to the show.

Tom Smith: Sure, families.

John Sackrison: So Thursday night opening night, you get to see it before everyone else. It’s a fantastic opportunity to see the show as well as Friday, Friday afternoon. It’s busy, but take off work on a Friday, and a lot of people already do that here in southern California. Maybe you can say that you’re picking out your next business car or something.

Tom Smith: Oh, right.

“…three years ago… we created the SoCal Work Truck Show… a show within the show.”

John Sackrison: But come to the auto show on Friday afternoon when the crowds are a little bit lighter, but overall, we’ve got, it’s a great event that, I don’t think anyone gets the feeling of claustrophobia or something like that from too many people there. And that’s one of the things that we pride ourselves on, is making it a great guest experience. It just made me think of something.

We added another element to our show about people taking Friday off to go pick out their next work vehicle. We actually created a new portion of our show three years ago. As we’re all buying more things on Amazon, and the construction industry has grown, we actually created the SoCal Work Truck Show, which is a show within the show. So we’ll have commercial trucks from Chevrolet, Ford, Isuzu, Fuso, Hino, RAM, and those are vehicles that are really ones that you are picking out for your business.

But that’s been a new element of the show that we’ve brought to it, and it’s been a huge success with the commercial consumers that come to the event because they get, the great thing about an auto show, or the SoCal Work Truck Advance Show, is you come to the show and you can see over 600 new cars all in one place. You can search online and get a lot of wonderful data. But being able to sit in and test drive that many cars in one place are unparalleled, and that’s what people like about coming to the auto show.

Tom Smith: I can’t smell it online.

John Sackrison: Sometimes that’s a good thing though.

Tom Smith: Nah, man. I love the smell of rubber, the fresh paint, the gas and oil and.

John Sackrison: The new car smell.

Tom Smith: Yeah, the new car smell. It’s fantastic.

John Sackrison: We have 67,000 square feet of new car smell.

The Future of Mobility

Tom Smith: Love it. So the future of mobility, the future of the automobile, the future of the auto show. None of us have a crystal ball. We all have some opinions that I think are forming. Not too long ago, the concept of every manufacturer diving into electric vehicles with their sleeves rolled up was a kind of crazy thought, but that’s pretty much where we are now.

What do you see from your unique perspective as the executive director of the Orange County Automobile Dealers Association, and the organization that puts together the OC Auto Show? What do you see, what do you think, and feel free to step out because you can also say, “Hey, you know,” you can give the disclaimer, because I’ve given them disclaimer in some of these when I’ve given my opinion that by the time I post this podcast, my opinion may have changed. So with that in mind.

John Sackrison: So basically, I can say anything.

Tom Smith: Yeah, you can say anything you want.

John Sackrison: So let me just make sure I’ve got the question correctly. What is the future of technology in vehicles, and, and how is that going to play out in the world of auto shows?

Tom Smith: Yeah. Yeah. Are we going to be all electric? How soon are we going to be all electric? Are we going to be electric flying, are we going to be autonomous, are we going to be autonomous flying, and in when?

Electric is Coming on Strong

John Sackrison: So I’ll touch base on both of those, electric and the adoption of autonomous. Electric continues to come on strong. You see, as you said, just about every manufacturer’s coming out with an electric product, and some brands are making really deep dives into them.

There’s some that, BMW for example. There are all sorts of advantages of electric vehicles as more people are starting to look at those as an opportunity for a lot of different reasons. One, it’s a little bit more environmentally friendly, but the performance on electric cars, the torque that you get out of electric motors, is kind of jaw-dropping, or you’ll feel the G’s for sure.

So there’s an excitement to that. Obviously, there are still challenges with range, but those are getting less, and when you’re looking at the advances in battery technology, and that’s one of the things that you see a lot of on the show floor, is a few years ago, there might’ve been two or three.

“…they [electric cars] are becoming much more mainstream.”

They actually did the North American introduction of the Leaf at our show, because this was one of the markets that they felt it was going to have the greatest impact and acceptance on, and they were right there. There’s a lot of those. But a few years ago on the auto show, you might see two or three electric vehicles, I would guess now there’s probably 25 or 30, and they are becoming much more mainstream, and there’s a lot of reasons why I think we’ll continue to see that.

There are other technologies out there. Toyota has done a tremendous job with, with hybrid vehicles. And plug-in hybrids, I think you’ll also, with the development of hydrogen fuel cells. That still is a pretty cool technology. When you’re talking about a power system, that is fascinating. I think that’s some years down the road. I know Toyota has invested very heavily in that, and oftentimes, their investments prove to be pretty worthy. But we’ll see, and there’s probably some things out there that we’re not even aware of right now.

Autonomous Driving

But that’s one of the fun things about this industry is it’s very dynamic. It’s always changing. One of those changes is autonomy. That’s been a huge discussion and huge investments in technology. And it’s fascinating to think about, is it gonna be a driverless car, is it going to be a driverless flying car, and there are so many questions to be answered and so many ideas that have been generated. You can imagine what that could do for traffic. It’s very exciting.

The technology is growing quickly, but I think we’re probably a few years off from a truly autonomous vehicle that consumers can either hail or buy or whatever it might be. What’s interesting though, is as we’re making these significant investments in this technology, this autonomous technology, the consumers are actually, right now, being able to benefit from it.

With level one and level two autonomy, and the cars that are on the road today are going to be at the auto show. And there is a statistic, and I think it might even come from the National Highway Traffic and Safety Administration that vehicles equipped with four level two autonomous systems. If every car had that, it would reduce 89 percent of crashes.

“If every car had that, it would reduce 89% of crashes.”

Tom Smith: Makes sense.

John Sackrison: And you think about that, and that’s just with level two. What I think the bigger leap is when you get into level three and level four autonomy, which is much more what we think of as a fully autonomous vehicle.

Our brains, maybe not the one that’s speaking right now, but other peoples that are much smarter than me, our brains have been trained since we started going to driver’s ed, probably while we’re still watching our parents drive, and the computer that we have in our heads actually does a tremendous job. Now our brains can get distracted.

There are things that we don’t react quickly enough. But I think what’s my projection is that it’s going to be a combination of, and I don’t think fully autonomous. There are some scary parts of that.

Tom Smith: Sure, absolutely.

Consumer Sentiment

John Sackrison: And you look at, right now, the consumer sentiment is not strongly in favor of an autonomous vehicle. They’re very nervous about it, and I think rightly so. It’s something that’s unknown, so I think there are fears based on that. But if you look at it from a cybersecurity standpoint, if there are some bad guys out there that wanted to do a lot of damage, if you have a fleet of autonomous vehicles that could be used as weapons, that’s a really scary thing.

Tom Smith: You bet.

John Sackrison: And I know those are things that everyone is very mindful of that, that are putting these together. But when you look at a fully connected car, there’s pros and cons. And so I think, my personal opinion, there’s going to be a bridge there, and it’s going to be, again, a combination of something that is maybe level two, level three autonomy where you get the majority of the safety benefits but you still have.

“…that’s part of the fun… seeing the technology changes.”

Tom Smith: Still have to be present, still have to be …

John Sackrison: Absolutely. Because the computer, let’s talk about a potential accident where our minds might make a choice avoiding hitting a child versus hitting a tree. And I know some of these things can be programmed, but maybe one’s a dog and one’s a person. Those are choices our minds-

Tom Smith: Or if it’s two different people. Sometimes we have choices, and it’s two bad choices. But you have to make one. So then a computer is going to do that.

John Sackrison: Which in that case, I almost would want the computer, because then I wouldn’t be, but no, it’s gonna be fascinating. No, it is fascinating, and that’s part of the fun of seeing these technology changes, is what is it going to be? And that’s one of the things I enjoy being a part of this industry, and an element that we try and bring to the auto show as well because we want, we embrace the technology. Frankly, it’s one of the things that people love most about their new cars. The average age of a car on the road today is about 11 years. So when a consumer buys a new car, it is like.

“…we embrace the technology. Frankly, it’s one of the things that people love most about their new cars.”

Tom Smith: Oh, it’s a step into the future.

John Sackrison: It is. And it’s amazing.

Tom Smith: I lease every three years. When you go back to at least, it’s like, “Oh my gosh, look what they can do now!

John Sackrison: Well, and that’s one of the really fun parts about the industry, and what’s one of the great things about the auto shows because it’s, you can get it and sit and drive a car. You also get to play around the NAV system and figure out, is that something that works for you, or the infotainment system, I guess is probably the more accurate term because it includes everything. And that’s one of the fun parts about cars now is it’s bringing a lot of entertainment in there, a lot of things that make things simpler, safer.

Tom Smith: Absolutely.

John Sackrison: You look at backup cameras that are pretty much standard on every car out there today.

Tom Smith: Couldn’t live without mine.

John Sackrison: I get in a rental car sometimes, and if it doesn’t have a backup camera, I’m trying to retrain myself on how to back up out of a parking spot. It’s kind of embarrassing starting over.

“And that’s one of the fun parts about cars now is it’s bringing a lot of entertainment in there, a lot of things that make things simpler, safer.”

Tom Smith: Yeah. All right, well, John, thank you so much. John Sackrison?

John Sackrison: Yeah, you got it. Right.

Tom Smith: Okay. The executive director of the Orange County Automobile Dealer’s Association, which is the power behind driving, if you will, the Orange County Auto Show, which is coming up very soon. Again, when?

John Sackrison: October 4th through 7th at the Anaheim Convention Center.

Tom Smith: October October 4th through 7th  at the Anaheim Convention Center. We already have it on the events page. We’ll link to that as well from this post. And John, unless you have anything to add…

OC Auto Show
Oct. 4-7 @ The Anaheim
Convention Center

John Sackrison: Come to the show. See all the new cars in one place. Test drive over 150 of them. Come down, have fun, be our guest. We’ll look forward to seeing you there.

Tom Smith: Good family friendly fun., come bond with your children. John, thank you again.

John Sackrison: Thank you.

Tom Smith: I’m looking forward to the show. For iDriveSoCal, I’m Tom Smith. As always, thank you very much for listening.